Snazzy title eh… Well I thought it was apt for the story I’m about to tell. Take a seat children, this ones getting get interesting.
Now, some people in the security industry might already be aware of a company called LIGATT, run by the self proclaimed “World’s No.1 Hacker” Gregory D. Evans. If you’re not aware of him, then you’re one of the lucky ones. I’ll let you form your own opinions, because everybody should be able to make up their own minds. Still, to the point.
As part of my duties for the Eurotrash Security Podcast, I try to arrange interviews with people I think are interesting to talk to. Be that for good or bad reasons. In this case, Gregory Evans was on my list (oooh I feel like Santa) solely to address a number of questions about his recent “book” (together with the associated plagiarism claims), and a few other topics that can only be referred to as dodgy dealings, misguiding people and general nastiness. So starts the story.
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On the evening of Wednesday 16th, I called the offices of LIGATT in Atlanta and asked to speak to Gregory Evans to arrange an interview. After giving my name, I was put through to speak to Gregory to arrange the details. What followed was a short conversation where I explained who I represented (Eurotrash Security Podcast) and what we’d like… i.e. an Interview. Greg ran through what he though about the plagiarism accusations and we arrange to talk again the next evening for a full interview once the whole Eurotrash crew was assembled. When booking the final appointment with his secretary I provided her with the URL of my blog (blog.c22.cc) and she gave me Gregory’s the Skype ID (ligattsecurity) to add ready for the interview.
Less than 15 minutes later, the following comment was received on my blog under the Books (as in book reviews) section.
Now I’m usually a calm guy. People usually like me and I try to get on with everybody equally. I think I do an OK job at that personally. However I don’t like to be threatened…. and threatening my friends and family is certainly stepping across the line.
Now, some things need to be made clear. This message doesn’t give a name. However the information contained within it leaves very little to the imagination, and little doubt who the originator of the message is. This is only compounded when you look at the IP information and track back where in the world this comment originated from. Cue the WHOIS music….
So the IP Address (74.228.197.214) belongs to BellSouth in Atlanta, Georgia. Surprise, surprise, this is the same town where Gregory Evans has his head offices. The very same place I was calling not 15 minutes earlier. I’m sure that’s just a co-incidence though, right!
Anyway, lets break down these colourful words and niceties to see what’s being said.
Chris, 20Plus or what every you want to go by
I usually go by Chris… this is my name after all. It makes sense.
You dick head. I wish I had known it was you I was just on the phone with.
You did know it was me… or at least you would have if you’d a) being paying attention to your secretary, b) not been too busy raging about how you’ve been hard done by and people are wrong accusing you of plagiarism.
I see you have books listed above but you did not write any of them.
This is correct…. just like you, I’ve never written a book. I do however have a few books I’ve read and like to recommend should people want some good books to read. The CEH Study Guide isn’t on the list however. Sorry. In other news it’s also 2010!
If you think that you are better than me, then put up the money and challenge me! If not shut the fuck up! I can out hack you any day.
Sorry, I don’t have a million dollars, and to be honest if I had to sell myself to get it, I’d rather stay without. However seeing as you’ve already being taken up on your challenge by Chris Nickerson, I fail to see the issue here… that is unless you plan to dodge that response and pretend you never saw it. Here’s a screenshot incase you missed it the first few times you were told.
I will now go after you family first! You fucked up! You let me find out who you really are! Now you must go! Bitch!
Right… so by “let me find out who you really are” you mean, I told you who I was. Unlike you, I’m not hiding from things. This is my blog, I have my name on it. I also gave you my name and affiliations on the phone. You really need to concentrate more. Hacking is all about attention to detail! Feel free to use that quote on your Twitter feed… no attribution required!
I will have my friend in your home country tracked down everyone you are friends with and your family and see what you are all about!
No need for tracking me down…. here’s my GPS coordinates (48.850385,15.096588). Please let me know when you’re coming past, I’ll cook fairy cakes or something. On a side-note, we arrest people in Austria for threatening behavior. Come to think of it, I think you do that in the US too. Anyway, lets move on. There’s more!
I have more money and power than you will every have!
See how good this “nigga” is now!
I don’t see any power… all I see is the threats of a little man who’s lashing out at everything and anything he finds threatening. I pity you, really I do.
Now you might have noticed I’ve resisted saying things like “you threaten my family and my friends again and I’ll cram those words down your throat using a strangely large kitchen utensil“… not because I can’t say them, or because I’d need to waste my precious time hunting for an oversized spatula at the local flea market, but because I’m more of a man than to resort to your childish tactics and lower myself to your level.
I can accept you feeling threatened by me and others in the InfoSec community. Threatening me might have seemed like your best plan of action. Intimidate me into silence. Seems like a fair enough game to play. Still, as I said, I draw the line when it comes to my friends and my family. I suggest you think about what you’ve done, take a timeout and re-evaluate your life.
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20Plus is LGTT stock troll. He thinks you are someone else.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51048972
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=50580944
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=50309143
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=50306323
Hm. Posting your address ->one step further towards ID theft. But I hear that the legal systems both in Austria and the US aren’t exactly fond of ex-cons committing further crimes.
Yes, if only he had my social security number now… oh, wait
I like the posts… not me, but still good. Trust me, if it was me, I’d be laughing my ass off right about now too!
Guess Gregory falls flat on his face again.
I found that whole exchange to be pretty funny. I also just heard that Greg Evans got interviewed by shitcast.co.uk – I wonder how many folks have tried to interview him?
Attrition.org has a wonderful compilation of this guys massive fail: http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/gregory_evans/
And I did a writeup recently where a few people thought we had hacked this guys facebook account – when in reality he didn’t actually secure his namespace on facebook: http://atenlabs.com/blog/how-to-steal-facebook-authentication-cookies/
Let the fail keep on coming!
Yep… Matthew Hughes from SHITcast did a great interview. He invited me on to do commentary for the after discussion (as Greg wouldn’t speak to me). Should be out in the next few hours and is filled with comedy gold. Matt did a great job with the interview and despite the threats, I tried to be as neutral as possible in the post interview commentary. Probably failed, but heck, I tried
I don’t see any further fail from @LIGATT personally… his moment on my radar is passed. I’ve got other more important projects and Greg seems to be fine to dig his own hole without me to help
I wonder if there are any beer delivery services. You know, this being Austria and all, there should be.
If you see where I’m going with that.
I guess @cjohnriley won’t be tweeting anymore. Well, wasn’t a good troll anyway.
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This nonsense irritates me, thus I did a quick writeup based on your post and outside information, with a link back to you.
Cheers
http://praetorianprefect.com/archives/2010/06/did-ligatt-securitys-ceo-threaten-the-life-of-a-security-professional/
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We got your back man! Don’t let it bother you!
Wow, that is pretty messed up. Even if he did think you were someone else, it doesn’t exactly behoove a CEO to go crazy like that.
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Wow…
I am glad there are a number of people willing to take the LIGATT hacking challenge.
I would be happy to set up the Hack-off between Chris N. and Mr. LIGATT. I will even hold the money until the challenge is over.
We can set up the hack-off “Eat It” style (a la Weird Al) Chris and Greg enter and only one leaves with the 1 mill.
Personally, I think I am the best/most impartial person to do this. I have nothing against Mr. LIGATT (i.e. I don’t own stock, but who does?) and Chris N. is… Chris N.. He gave me a lap-dance once, but to be honest it wasn’t all that good.
Come to think of it, we should settle all Security Community BeEFs this way. A nice Hack-off.
Just doing my part to bring 80′s style movie comedy competitions to reality.
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“This is correct…. just like you, I’ve never written a book.”
Chris – 1 Greg Evans – 0
I have been following the controversy around Ligatt/Greg Evans lately, and it seems to get more absurd every day. I was riding around Atlanta on Saturday and saw one of his billboards. I could not contain my lols
Chris,
As a man supposedly in this security industry, You should have made your story a bit more believable. With I, myself not being extremely familiar with computer technologies, Even I know how to change an IP address with simple editing softwares to make it look as if its coming from wherever I please. With all Greg has going on, would he even have enough time to pose threats to you? After checking his credentials and actually seeing him in action, I think not. I know it may be hard to face the fact that there’s finally a successful black man in the security industry, but lets go ahead and face it folks. This man is the TRUTH in the security industry.
wow, this Greg dude seems to be a rather egotistical ass. for lack of better term. Hell someone should just root his web server, not even deface it(defacing is lame) root it then post all his e-mails or something. Something extreme to shut his mouth. And him trying to make it a race thing, please, color does not matter. I have seen some amazingly smart and well skilled IT Professionals as well as hackers who are “black”
I’ll allow this comment purely so I can point something out to you. Posting 100s of blog comments on different blogs (all talking about LIGATT) and from the same IP-Address (72.151.116.19) is idiotic. Either give up, or learn how to use a proxy. Ask Greg… I’m sure he knows!
As much as I hate to say it, I don’t think attacking Greg’s systems is the way to go. If you give Greg enough time he will continue to talk himself into trouble. He likes to dig a big hole I guess.
As for the racism thing… well that’s just Greg putting up a smokescreen. He likes to deflect things using race it seems.
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